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Skytiger
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| 1Subject: Soul Existance Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:40 am | |
| Is it possible some people are soulless? That they are just here as extras to help those with souls complete their lessons that can be acted out in Earth School ? Just a thought I had while thinking of those who claim they have no past life memories, and no belief in something more than 'now'. |
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| 2Subject: Re: Soul Existance Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:05 am | |
| - Skytiger wrote:
- Is it possible some people are soulless? That they are just here as extras to help those with souls complete their lessons that can be acted out in Earth School ?
Just a thought I had while thinking of those who claim they have no past life memories, and no belief in something more than 'now'.
The information about spiritual reality that I channeled for the "War in Heaven" book goes into a lot of detail in explaining that human beings have a "somatic soul" that's composed of what Spiritualists have traditionally called "astral matter" and linked to the body on the molecular level. People also acquire a second soul that can survive the death of the physical body, either through having one incarnate in the body just before or after birth, or through a growth process during infancy and childhood. And the same channelings teach that all people have two minds: a physical mind located in the body and an astral mind located in the soul. Using these postulates as a starting point, such things as past life memories and psychic powers are easy to explain in terms of conscious access to information that's locked deep in the subconscious mind, which means that there are no soulless people, just people who aren't in communication with their souls. |
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| 3Subject: Re: Soul Existance Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:20 am | |
| Thanks for the explanation. Now I can stop worrying about 4Play |
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| 4Subject: Re: Soul Existance Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:43 am | |
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Hold on just a second here.. It seems to me if we take into consideration that laboratories are on the verge of creation of robotic humans the idea of soulless beings is not far fetched.
If one also considers the possibility that not all are here to learn lessons that some may have been created as expendable or preprogramed fodder for some of lifes situations, do we know for a fact that many of the babys that die in infancy had souls ? What better way for some lessons to be experienced (for whatever reason) than a human soulless body to be the orchastrated "victim" ?
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| 5Subject: Re: Soul Existance Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:10 am | |
| Good points Kim. I do wonder about those who completely believe there is no afterlife, it may be true for them, but not true for everyone. Many of us have past life memories as well as memories of the spirit world. Memories that are more real than life here. I have had visits from my parents, after their transition, and remember playing with an older couple as a child. In my teens I saw their pictures at my uncles house. They were his grandparents and mine, who died many years before I was born. One more thing, I have seen a few, very few, people who have what seemed like soulless eyes. Hard to explain, seemed like there was nothing behind their eyes. Most people have a energy behind their eyes, a happiness or a sadness within, something vibrant and alive within. I can't help but believe the majority of people I've met on line have that vibrancy within, including 4Play. Never had a doubt that you Kim and Kyle have that vibrant energy. |
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| 6Subject: Re: Soul Existance Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:33 am | |
| BigK, #4, re: "Hold on just a second here.. It seems to me if we take into consideration that laboratories are on the verge of creation of robotic humans the idea of soulless beings is not far fetched."
I have it on pretty good authority that earthly science is still a long ways from being able to create such beings by either biological or non- biological means.
re: "If one also considers the possibility that not all are here to learn lessons that some may have been created as expendable or preprogramed fodder for some of lifes situations, do we know for a fact that many of the babys that die in infancy had souls? What better way for some lessons to be experienced (for whatever reason) than a human soulless body to be the orchastrated 'victim'?"
It looks to me like this line of speculation is based on the postulate that "somebody is in charge here" and I've never seen good evidence that this is the case. What I see looks more like an evolutionary process based on mutation and natural selection. process
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| 7Subject: Re: Soul Existance Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:34 am | |
| Sky, #5, re: "Good points Kim. I do wonder about those who completely believe there is no afterlife, it may be true for them, but not true for everyone."
Quite a number of Spiritualist writers have claimed that disembodied souls are given the option of either continuing to reincarnate, or to voluntarily pass into another state of existence whose nature has never been revealed to human beings.
re: "Many of us have past life memories as well as memories of the spirit world. Memories that are more real than life here. I have had visits from my parents, after their transition, and remember playing with an older couple as a child. In my teens I saw their pictures at my uncles house. They were his grandparents and mine, who died many years before I was born."
I have had similar experiences, and Spiritualist literature is full of similar accounts. What I always say when I discuss this on line is that while there is no hard proof that the Spiritualist conception of the afterlife describes reality, there does seem to be considerable valid-looking evidence.
re: "One more thing, I have seen a few, very few, people who have what seemed like soulless eyes. Hard to explain, seemed like there was nothing behind their eyes. Most people have a energy behind their eyes, a happiness or a sadness within, something vibrant and alive within. I can't help but believe the majority of people I've met on line have that vibrancy within, including 4Play. Never had a doubt that you Kim and Kyle have that vibrant energy."
I don't remember ever meeting anyone who appeared to be "soulless" in the sense of not proecting any psychic energies at all. However, I've read and heard lots of accounts similar to the one you just gave, so my mind is still open on this subject.
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