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Reality Rebel
Discussions of alternatives to the conventional schools of thought in philosophy, religion, politics, economics, social issues, and arts/entertainment.
1Subject: Laugh, laugh and more laugh ! Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:11 am
Now this is not directed towards anyone here in group but it would bear riposting in another one..
One of the things many skeptics look at as a "knee slapper" and get a good laugh out of concerning Bible writings when they discredit it, is the talking animals and serpent.. I offer presentation in this message thread as evidence that much is possible and probable..
Actually Animals and Birds imo. have more to say than many humans should be allowed to speak..
What I will go on in subsequent posts to demonstrate that Animals and Birds possibly Reptiles possess the structure of muscles and physical attributes similar to ours to facilitate speech.
The next requisite would be the capacity to understand and believe in Spirits and their ability to enter and operate from within a per-existing breathing creature.
First I'll start out on the lighter side and will show these videos, the serious ones will follow in a separate reply below this one...
3Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh and more laugh ! Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:35 pm
Here's some information that IMO adds significantly to what you just presented"
"The Eurasian magpie is believed not only to be among the brightest of birds but among the most intelligent of all animals. Along with the jackdaw, the Eurasian magpie's nidopallium is approximately the same relative size as those in chimpanzees and humans, significantly larger than the gibbon's. Like other corvids, such as ravens and crows, their total brain-to-body mass ratio is equal to most great apes' and cetaceans.' A 2004 review suggests that the intelligence of the corvid family to which the Eurasian magpie belongs is equivalent to that of great apes (chimpanzees, orangutans, and gorillas) in terms of social cognition, causal reasoning, flexibility, imagination, and prospection.
Magpies have been observed engaging in elaborate social rituals, possibly including the expression of grief. Mirror self-recognition has been demonstrated in European magpies,[41] making them one of but a few species and the only non-mammal known to possess this capability. The cognitive abilities of the Eurasian magpie are regarded as evidence that intelligence evolved independently in both corvids and primates. This is indicated by tool use, an ability to hide and store food across seasons, episodic memory, using their own experience to predict the behavior of conspecifics. Another behavior exhibiting intelligence is cutting their food in correctly sized proportions for the size of their young. In captivity magpies have been observed counting up to get food, imitating human voices, and regularly using tools to clean their own cages. In the wild, they organise themselves into gangs and use complex strategies hunting other birds and when confronted by predators.
4Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh and more laugh ! Wed Jan 20, 2016 1:32 am
Yes indeed, I have studied Crows for the last 45 years and had a pet Crow for 9 years so I got to know them and their behaviors quite well. they have a society similar to ours..
The point I was eluding to was in reference to Biblical statements concerning talking animals and a serpent, I was attempting to show that these creatures could indeed speak if they were possessed by an entity to do so.
5Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh and more laugh ! Wed Jan 20, 2016 10:15 am
BK#4 : "The point I was eluding to was in reference to Biblical statements concerning talking animals and a serpent, I was attempting to show that these creatures could indeed speak if they were possessed by an entity to do so."
There are people who love to pet or entertain with snakes and other reptiles and they sure must be able to communicate with Hums without or with any entities around
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6Subject: Re: Laugh, laugh and more laugh ! Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:35 pm